SE:9

bonjour

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bonne chance.

Nombre de messages : 8 Age : 60 Date d'inscription : 30/06/2009

La grille des RAPs:

____A_____B_____C_______D_____E_____F_______G_____H_____I______
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
1 |4______6_____159___|125____1279__137___|3579___13579_8_____|
2 |1359___2_____159___|158____179___1378__|4______6_____13579_|
3 |7______39____8_____|156____4_____136___|359____2_____1359__|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
4 |35_____4_____2_____|9______8_____17____|6______1357__1357__|
5 |589____1_____579___|3______6_____2_____|579____45789_4579__|
6 |389____3789__6_____|4______17____5_____|2379___13789_12379_|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
7 |6______5_____14____|7______12____9_____|8______34____234___|
8 |189____789___3_____|12_____5_____4_____|279____79____6_____|
9 |2______79____479___|68_____3_____68____|1______4579__4579__|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

1a2-1a8/1d8-1d123/ -> -1ef2

7c5-7c9/79b9/93b3/3a2

..|-3f2/3f1

....|-1f1/1f4-1e6/1e7-1c7/4c7-4c9/7c9-7c5/

....|-7f1/7f4-7e6/7b6-7c5/

..|-3i2/3g13-3g6/2g6-2g8/2d8-2e7/1e7-1c7/4c7-4c9/7c9-7c5/

-> c5=7 -5a2

____A_____B_____C_______D_____E_____F_______G_____H_____I______
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
1 |4______6_____159___|125____1279__137___|3579___13579_8_____|
2 |139____2_____159___|158____79____378___|4______6_____13579_|
3 |7______39____8_____|156____4_____136___|359____2_____1359__|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
4 |35_____4_____2_____|9______8_____17____|6______1357__1357__|
5 |589____1_____7_____|3______6_____2_____|59_____4589__459___|
6 |389____389___6_____|4______17____5_____|2379___13789_12379_|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
7 |6______5_____14____|7______12____9_____|8______34____234___|
8 |189____789___3_____|12_____5_____4_____|279____79____6_____|
9 |2______79____49____|68_____3_____68____|1______4579__4579__|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

39b3/9c12-9c9/4c9-4c7/43h7/3h4

..|-1h4/1f4-1e6/1e7-1c7/1a8-1a2/3a2-3b3/

..|-5h4/53a4/3a2-3b3/

..|-7h4/7i46

....|-7i9/79b9/93b3/

....|-7i2/7f2

......|-3f2/3a2-3b3/

......|-8f2/86f9/6f3

........|-1f3/1f4-1f6/1e7-1c7/1a8-1a2/3a2-3b3/

........|-3f3/

-> -3gi3

Paire{59} colonne (g)

____A_____B_____C_______D_____E_____F_______G_____H_____I______
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
1 |4______6_____159___|125____1279__137___|37_____13579_8_____|
2 |139____2_____159___|158____79____378___|4______6_____13579_|
3 |7______39____8_____|156____4_____136___|59_____2_____159___|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
4 |35_____4_____2_____|9______8_____17____|6______1357__1357__|
5 |589____1_____7_____|3______6_____2_____|59_____4589__459___|
6 |389____389___6_____|4______17____5_____|237____13789_12379_|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
7 |6______5_____14____|7______12____9_____|8______34____234___|
8 |189____789___3_____|12_____5_____4_____|27_____79____6_____|
9 |2______79____49____|68_____3_____68____|1______4579__4579__|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

27g8/73g1/3f1

..|-1f1/1f4-1e6/12e7/2i7-2g8/

..|-7f1/79e2/9e1

....|-9c1/94c9/41c7/12e7/2i7-2g8/

....|-9h1/97h8/72g8/

-> Tous les 2 d8=1 c7=1 c9=4 a2=1 b3=3 -9h1 -9i2

____A_____B_____C_______D_____E_____F_______G_____H_____I______
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
1 |4______6_____59____|2______179___137___|37_____1357__8_____|
2 |1______2_____59____|58_____79____378___|4______6_____357___|
3 |7______3_____8_____|56_____4_____16____|59_____2_____159___|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
4 |35_____4_____2_____|9______8_____17____|6______1357__1357__|
5 |589____1_____7_____|3______6_____2_____|59_____4589__459___|
6 |389____89____6_____|4______17____5_____|37_____13789_2_____|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
7 |6______5_____1_____|7______2_____9_____|8______34____34____|
8 |89_____789___3_____|1______5_____4_____|2______79____6_____|
9 |2______79____4_____|68_____3_____68____|1______579___579___|
--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

7f4-7e6/7g6-7g1/ -> -7f1

61f3/13f1/3f2-3i2/34i7/(RI{59}gi35)4i5-1i3/16f3/

-> f3=6

FIN.

Nombre de messages : 445 Age : 94 Date d'inscription : 01/07/2009

Bonjour à tous,

La grille de départ de Christian marquée

X(2)
1 | 4______ 6______ 159__ | 12a5_ 12A79k 137__ | 3579__ 1o3579_ 8_____ |
2 | 1a3I5s9 2______ 159__ | 158b_ 7k9K__ 1378B | 4_____ 6______ 1357v9 |
3 | 7______ 3i9I___ 8____ | 15t6B 4_____ 136b_ | 359___ 2______ 1p359_ |
4 | 3l5L___ 4______ 2____ | 9____ 8_____ 1f7F_ | 6_____ 1357___ 1357__ |
5 | 58d9___ 1______ 5s7j9 | 3____ 6_____ 2____ | 5u79__ 4c578D9 4C579_ |
6 | 389____ 3I7J8g9 6____ | 4____ 1F7f__ 5____ | 2A3q79 1378d9_ 12a379 |
7 | 6______ 5______ 1a4A_ | 7____ 1A2a__ 9____ | 8_____ 3r4R___ 2A3R4_ |
8 | 1A8g9__ 7w8G9__ 3____ | 1a2A_ 5_____ 4____ | 2a79__ 7m9M___ 6_____ |
9 | 2______ 7n9N___ 4a7J9 | 6b8B_ 3_____ 6B8b_ | 1_____ 45h79__ 45H79_ |

F2#1
Jf FA aJ J Faux
C5=7
Nouveaux jJ en colC
OU(aK)=>A2#9
9s en A5

X(3)
1 | 4_____ 6_____ 15j9 | 12a5ò_ 1ü2A7y9k 1ö3é7á | 3579___ 1o3w5x79 8_______ |
2 | 1a3A__ 2_____ 15J9 | 15ì8b_ 7k9K____ 3â7ù8B | 4______ 6_______ 1ô3ê57v9 |
3 | 7_____ 3a9A__ 8___ | 1ä5t6B 4_______ 1ë3ï6b | 359____ 2_______ 1p359___ |
4 | 3l5L__ 4_____ 2___ | 9_____ 8_______ 1f7F__ | 6______ 1357____ 1357____ |
5 | 5l8d9s 1_____ 7___ | 3_____ 6_______ 2_____ | 5u9U___ 4c58D9__ 4C59____ |
6 | 389___ 3A8g9î 6___ | 4_____ 1F7f____ 5_____ | 2A3q79z 1û378d9_ 1i2a379_ |
7 | 6_____ 5_____ 1a4A | 7_____ 1A2a____ 9_____ | 8______ 3r4R____ 2A3R4à__ |
8 | 1A8g9î 7N8G9_ 3___ | 1a2A__ 5_______ 4_____ | 2a79___ 7m9M____ 6_______ |
9 | 2_____ 7n9N__ 4a9A | 6b8B__ 3_______ 6B8b__ | 1______ 4è5h79__ 45H79___ |

â ù b TERNAIRE en F2

ë(ëb Bâ) ë(ëb Bù ) ë() =>ë FAUX
ï(ïb Bâ) ï(ïb Bù) ï() =>ï FAUX

F3=2 D2=8 D9=6 F9=8
Ou(ft)=>I4#1
o=i

X(4)
1 | 4_____ 6_____ 15j9 | 12a5T 1ü2A7y9k 1F3B7á | 3579___ 1i3w5x79 8________ |
2 | 1a3A__ 2_____ 15J9 | 8____ 7k9K____ 3b7B__ | 4______ 6_______ 1ô3ê5j7v9 |
3 | 7_____ 3a9A__ 8___ | 1T5t_ 4_______ 6_____ | 359____ 2_______ 1t359____ |
4 | 3l5L__ 4_____ 2___ | 9____ 8_______ 1f7F__ | 6______ 1357____ 357______ |
5 | 5l8d9s 1_____ 7___ | 3____ 6_______ 2_____ | 5u9U___ 4c58D9__ 4C59_____ |
6 | 389___ 3A8g9î 6___ | 4____ 1F7f____ 5_____ | 2A3q79z 1û378d9_ 1i2a379__ |
7 | 6_____ 5_____ 1a4A | 7____ 1A2a____ 9_____ | 8______ 3r4R____ 2A3R4à___ |
8 | 1A8g9î 7N8G9_ 3___ | 1a2A_ 5_______ 4_____ | 2a7â9ë_ 7m9M____ 6________ |
9 | 2_____ 7n9N__ 4a9A | 6____ 3_______ 8_____ | 1______ 4è5h79__ 45H79____ |

a ù ô TERNAIRE des 1 en ligne 2
T() T(ùJ jT) t () =>Fusion ô=T

X(5)
1 | 4_____ 6_____ 1T5j9 | 1o2a5T 1ü2A7y9k 1F3B7á | 357ä9___ 3w5x7ö9 8________ |
2 | 1a3A__ 2_____ 1ù5J9 | 8_____ 7k9K____ 3b7B__ | 4_______ 6______ 1T3ê5j7v9 |
3 | 7_____ 3a9A__ 8____ | 1T5t__ 4_______ 6_____ | 359_____ 2______ 1t359____ |
4 | 3l5L__ 4_____ 2____ | 9_____ 8_______ 1f7F__ | 6_______ 1F357__ 357______ |
5 | 5l8d9s 1_____ 7____ | 3_____ 6_______ 2_____ | 5u9U____ 4c58D9_ 4C59_____ |
6 | 389___ 3A8g9î 6____ | 4_____ 1F7f____ 5_____ | 2A3q7ï9z 1f378d9 2a379____ |
7 | 6_____ 5_____ 1a4A_ | 7_____ 1A2a____ 9_____ | 8_______ 3r4R___ 2A3R4à___ |
8 | 1A8g9î 7N8G9p 3____ | 1a2A__ 5_______ 4_____ | 2a7â9ë__ 7m9M___ 6________ |
9 | 2_____ 7n9N__ 4a9A_ | 6_____ 3_______ 8_____ | 1_______ 4è5h79_ 4ì5H79___ |

ìC cD df FA aì ì Faux

X(7)
1 | 4_____ 6_____ 1T5j9 | 1o2a5T 1ü2A7y9k 1F3B7á | 357ä9___ 3w5x7ö9 8________ |
2 | 1a3A__ 2_____ 1ù5J9 | 8_____ 7k9K____ 3b7B__ | 4_______ 6______ 1T3ê5j7v9 |
3 | 7_____ 3a9A__ 8____ | 1T5t__ 4_______ 6_____ | 359_____ 2______ 1t359____ |
4 | 3l5L__ 4_____ 2____ | 9_____ 8_______ 1f7F__ | 6_______ 1F357__ 357______ |
5 | 5l8d9s 1_____ 7____ | 3_____ 6_______ 2_____ | 5u9U____ 4c58D9_ 4C59_____ |
6 | 389___ 3A8g9î 6____ | 4_____ 1F7f____ 5_____ | 2A3q7ï9z 1f378d9 2a379____ |
7 | 6_____ 5_____ 1a4A_ | 7_____ 1A2a____ 9_____ | 8_______ 3r4R___ 2A3R4c___ |
8 | 1A8g9î 7N8G9p 3____ | 1a2A__ 5_______ 4_____ | 2a7â9ë__ 7m9M___ 6________ |
9 | 2_____ 7n9N__ 4a9A_ | 6_____ 3_______ 8_____ | 1_______ 4A5h79_ 5H79_____ |

ùJ jH hA aù ù Faux
T=A

X(8)
Ou(jv)=>I2#9
K=J
Ou(aH)=>I3#5
Ternaire des 9 en ligne 3(Aí?)=Ternaire en G3(?Aí)
?=ô

X(9)
1 | 4_____ 6_____ 1A5j9t | 2a5A 1ü2A7y9j 1F3B7á | 35i7ä9__ 3w5x7ö9 8_______ |
2 | 1a3A__ 2_____ 5J9j__ | 8___ 7j9J____ 3b7B__ | 4_______ 6______ 1A3ê5j7v |
3 | 7_____ 3a9A__ 8_____ | 1A5a 4_______ 6_____ | 3ô5A9í__ 2______ 1a3û9ô__ |
4 | 3l5L__ 4_____ 2_____ | 9___ 8_______ 1f7F__ | 6_______ 1F357__ 357_____ |
5 | 5l8d9s 1_____ 7_____ | 3___ 6_______ 2_____ | 5u9U____ 4c58D9_ 4C59____ |
6 | 389o__ 3A8g9î 6_____ | 4___ 1F7f____ 5_____ | 2A3q7ï9z 1f378d9 2a379___ |
7 | 6_____ 5_____ 1a4A__ | 7___ 1A2a____ 9_____ | 8_______ 3r4R___ 2A3R4c__ |
8 | 1A8g9î 7N8G9p 3_____ | 1a2A 5_______ 4_____ | 2a7â9ë__ 7m9M___ 6_______ |
9 | 2_____ 7n9N__ 4a9A__ | 6___ 3_______ 8_____ | 1_______ 4A5h79_ 5H79____ |

ôA aô ô Faux
zA az z Faux
uA aU Fusion u=a=====
Paire 59 en col G
lA al l Faux
qA al Lq q Faux
QA al Lq Fusion Q=a=L====

FIN
A+
André

Nombre de messages : 737 Age : 85 Date d'inscription : 01/07/2009

Bravo André, tes deux premiers ternaires sont particulièrement difficiles à trouver. En général, ces grilles SE me paraissent hors de ma portée (niveau Hard, me semble-t-il). Je suis très admiratif de te voir t'y frotter. A+

jeanlé a écrit:: Bravo André, tes deux premiers ternaires sont particulièrement difficiles à trouver. En général, ces grilles SE me paraissent hors de ma portée (niveau Hard, me semble-t-il). Je suis très admiratif de te voir t'y frotter. A+

oui jeanlé, les grilles SE sont de niveaux 8.9 à 9.

pour les ternaires , j'ai encore de la peine à les trouver comme toi

mais je me regale avec les chaines de christian , je me dis toujours , mais comment il fait pour trouver ces chaines avec derivations, c'est tellement facile à les comprendre , mais les trouver c'est pas vraiment evident .

Nombre de messages : 161 Age : 65 Date d'inscription : 08/07/2009

Bonsoir,

Cette grille est quand meme a classer dans les costauds.
Apres la tournee des popotes

____A_____B_____C_______D_____E_____F_______G_____H_____I______

--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

1 |4______6_____159___|125____1279__137___|3579___13579_8_____|

2 |1359___2_____159___|158____179___1378__|4______6_____13579_|

3 |7______39____8_____|156____4_____136___|359____2_____1359__|

--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

4 |35_____4_____2_____|9______8_____17____|6______1357__1357__|

5 |589____1_____579___|3______6_____2_____|579____45789_4579__|

6 |389____3789__6_____|4______17____5_____|2379___13789_12379_|

--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

7 |6______5_____14____|7______12____9_____|8______34____234___|

8 |189____789___3_____|12_____5_____4_____|279____79____6_____|

9 |2______79____479___|68_____3_____68____|1______4579__4579__|

--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

* Apres l elim des 1

1.f4-1.e6 // 1.e7-1.d8 /1.a8-1.a2 => -1.f2=79 ;-1.e2 :

J economise QUAND MEME une derivation, n est-ce pas Christian ? Very Happy

* 7.c5- Triplet 159.c125 / 1.c7-1e7 /17.e6 * -7b6 : c5=7 (+ alignements)

* j elimine mais c est sans lendemain le 9 de a2

97.e2 / 71.e6 /1.e7-1.d8 /1.a8-1.a2 : a2=13

____A_____B_____C_______D_____E_____F_______G_____H_____I______

--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

1 |4______6_____159___|125____1279__137___|3579___13579_8_____|

2 |13_____2_____159___|158____79____378___|4______6_____13579_|

3 |7______39____8_____|156____4_____136___|359____2_____1359__|

--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

4 |35_____4_____2_____|9______8_____17____|6______1357__1357__|

5 |589____1_____7_____|3______6_____2_____|59_____4589__459___|

6 |389____389___6_____|4______17____5_____|2379___13789_12379_|

--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

7 |6______5_____14____|7______12____9_____|8______34____234___|

8 |189____789___3_____|12_____5_____4_____|279____79____6_____|

9 |2______79____49____|68_____3_____68____|1______4579__4579__|

--+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+

Apres je n ai guere non plus que les derivations - celles de christian,

mais je n ai pas obtenu la perle... Twisted Evil

Les derivations ne sont pas ici trop mechantes, mais quand meme... Shocked

Sudocalement votre,

Loumtom